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Oil Slick
09-17-2013, 10:58 PM
I've been working the D8 on a side job and it's starting to make some funny noise from my completely rebuild engine (except for injection pump). The heads have been rebuild, injectors, liners, pistons, crank turned. At first it only started making the noise under heavy load. As the hours go by its starting to make it while working at 75%. It's slowly getting worse and worse. It doesn't make the noise when under a light load just only when working it.

Sounds like valve train to me but it does have a minor exhaust leak where the short 3" stack bolts to the exhaust manifold. I would think it would make the noise all the time if that was it.

Sorry for the poor quality video but please take a good listen to the tapping noise and see what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNE2IRDI1lw&feature=youtu.be

Old Magnet
09-17-2013, 11:08 PM
Sounds kind of raspy but I can't make out much else in all that noise.

Inter674
09-18-2013, 04:27 AM
sounds like a noisy lifter or two and a leaking manifold so check valve clearances and fix the gasket and see what changes. Perhaps one or two valves have seated causing excessive tappet clearance

djcat
09-18-2013, 05:19 AM
Hi there Mike,

D342's do have a small habit of the cam follower retaining yokes coming loose in the block. They are held in with 2x 3/8 bolts with lock tags. I have seen them come loose and rattle around in the block. They can be seen if you have a keen eye and a good torch by lifting the valve covers and following the push rods down to the cam follower with a log screw driver or piece of rod and see if anything is loose.

Good luck..

Cheers djcat

DPete
09-18-2013, 07:47 AM
Don't know about the noise but it looks like you're doing a nice job.

ronm
09-18-2013, 08:16 AM
I've heard exhaust leaks that make a sound you would swear is a loose valve or injector knock...on the end branch, 1 or 6, it will only spit when that cyl. fires, & only under load.
That vid reminds me of when my ex-BIL would call me in the middle of the night & hold the phone out the window of his hot-oil truck (Mack) & ask me what that noise was...LOL...after he had been out for about 24 hr. heating frac tanks, he would get kinda weird..start hearing all kinds of things...:lol:

King of Obsolete
09-18-2013, 09:15 PM
check the oil in the injector pump body thing. if the seal leaks the oil in to the engine that will get noisey. the d6 9u known as The Hood has a leaky seal and everyday i top up the injector pump body thing before heading out to pull rail. if i work more then 8 hours i have to top up the injector pump body thing with oil because it gets a little noisey. this works good because i don't have to add oil to the engine because it gets topped up everyday through the leaked oil from the injector pump body thing seal.

the video looks and sounds good, just need a film crew to folow you around like they did with me.

thansk
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Oil Slick
09-19-2013, 06:42 PM
king, oil level s good in the injection pump.

Next week I will re tighten all the exhaust manifold bolts in case that's what I'm hearing.

The oil girl sure has a sweet rumble with the twin stacks. Every neaghbor around has come to see what the noise was. LoL

Deas Plant.
09-20-2013, 02:04 AM
Hi, DPete.
There has been a 'slight' improvement in both the quality of Mike's blade work and his attitude toward the HO D8 since he turned the front idler blocks to the 'Low' position back in, I think, 2010. He had it in for pin/bush turning at the time and I noticed in a photo of the beast sitting in the doorway of his workshop that the idlers were in the high position. Those track frames came off a donor 2U that had been a farming tractor all its life.

Just my 0.02.

Oil Slick
09-20-2013, 10:24 AM
Deas, I learned how to work the dozer with the idlers in the Ag position while. balancing on the front rollers. Now the idlers are in the doze position I feel like superman!

The 2U is very enjoyable to operate with the CCU rebuilt and everything working correct. I leave it in first gear the whole time and about 7/8 throttle and it sure sounds healthy.

I try not to be hard on it like Deas, LoL
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Df0_RiIx2ZQ&feature=relmfu

Walt D7-3T
09-26-2013, 02:06 AM
So, Mike, what did you find was the cause the noise?:wave::noidea:

Oil Slick
09-26-2013, 10:28 PM
I tightened the exhaust/intake bolt and the sound stopped for a short time. Although they were already pretty tight. I figure if it's something more than a exhaust leak it will aventually show itself.

Walt D7-3T
09-27-2013, 02:41 AM
Mike,

Could the exhaust gasket be leaking now that the bolt was loose? Just enough to "burn" the gasket?

Walt

DPete
09-27-2013, 07:51 PM
Take a good look at the intake manifold, we used to have problems with the 14A's moving forward, probably the same clamp on manifold on the 2U

Oil Slick
09-27-2013, 08:05 PM
10-4 I'm going back out tomorrow and I'll try to get a better look at the gasket. Only makes the noise when under load. The other video of me doing a long push you can here it when I'm sitting down..... drives me nuts :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LoXDs5d6oY&feature=youtu.be

Walt D7-3T
10-01-2013, 12:05 PM
OK Mike,

Times up (ha ha). Have you found anything yet????:wave:

I am just very curious is all...

Walt

Oil Slick
10-01-2013, 11:12 PM
Walt, I worked the High Output today and the noise is still there and the gaskets look to be in place. I believe the solution to the problem is better ear plugs.

Tomorrow I'm headed to pick up the single ripper for the blade to help break up some of the hard stuff. Arlie is going to let me barrow it

edb
10-02-2013, 12:08 AM
Hi Mike,
as yet you have to do the Injection Pump Lifter settings as I can see the rear cylinders are hitting harder than the front ones--by the black smoke emitting from the rear exhaust stack.
So the noise could be this sounding in the rear exhaust stack.
If I recall correctly, way back, you swapped injectors and pumps and found no change.
Cheers,
Eddie B.