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ubucat
12-21-2009, 10:08 PM
Can anyone verify the model and series of this cat from the pictures? I do not have a serial# and have not seen the cat yet.

ol Grump
12-21-2009, 10:21 PM
The serial number would tell ya for sure but from what I see, it's pretty likely it's a J model. .

Rd6 plower
12-21-2009, 11:29 PM
It is cause the air cleaner is up front. Take closer pics of the control levers and stuff and I can tell u the year.

Dozerman51
12-22-2009, 12:33 AM
Looks like the Cat the GSA had up for auction in either Idaho, Montana or Wyoming-can't remember which State it was. Did you buy it?

Gordon.
12-22-2009, 01:18 AM
With those wide tracks i guess it's a 50" guage which would make it a 5J model. However what differs from a 5U 50" ? Also does the engine in a D2 have a model or is it just a "D 2" engine, like wise the donkey engine ?
Gordon.

SJ
12-22-2009, 06:06 AM
The engine serial number would be the same as the one on the rear housing above the drawbar unless it has been replaced with one from another tractor.It should be 5J (0000) plus the SN when it was made.

ubucat
12-22-2009, 07:03 AM
Rd6plower

I have attached a picture of the controls so you can see what you think.

Dozerman51

I don't own it, a friend emailed me these pictures and asked me if it was a 5U series and I told him I didn't think so.

OzDozer
12-22-2009, 07:10 AM
I think Dozerman51 is referring to the tractor that was put up for sale recently, that was on some remote Govt nature reserve/park land/wilderness area .. and there was a sale stipulation that no wheeled vehicle was allowed into that area. The tractor was in a building on that land, and would have had to have been "backpacked" or choppered out. We were intrigued to know if anyone bought it. That pic looks very much like the tractor in question.

ol Grump
12-22-2009, 07:28 AM
Gordon,
There were only two models of the D2; the J and U. Visually, on the J model the air intake for the diesel was through the hood as yours is with the air cleaner directly underneath, the U model had the air intake and air cleaner at the rear, right in front of the operator. There are a lot of other differences between 'em but those are the most visually obvious.

Rd6 plower
12-22-2009, 10:30 AM
It's not a real early one but it's mid term up. They started making them in 1938 and ran all the way up to 1946-7 then came out with the u series. Well any way that one is probly 1943- 1945. And is there petcocks on top of the pony block and is the pony dip stick cast handle or a pressed tin handle and on the fuel tower is the fuel pressure gauge bracket cast into the tower or mounted on a tin bracket? Also I can't see in the photo does it have carrier rollers it doesn't look like but it might?:D


Where exactly did you look for the tags? Because there's a good chance the #'s are stamped on the block it's self and chasis right where the tags go if there're missing.

B4D2
12-22-2009, 10:55 AM
Tell your friend that unless he has Obama's blessings and a letter from the Sierra Club absolving him from any damage to the forest, this machine is a loosing proposition for removal. He really needs to read the fine print on that auction. I would bet that if he were to try to inspect the machine prior to bidding, the trip alone would cost him the value of the machine.

Gordon.
12-22-2009, 11:52 AM
If someone pays my return flight i'll drive her out of the forest at night, im sure we all know minimum damage would occur and we would have alot of fun would we not ?

ubucat
12-22-2009, 12:04 PM
Rd6plower

All I have are the pictures that were emailed to me. I am attaching the remaining pictures. Dozerman had suggested this was a machine that sold on a government sale previously. I don't know if that is the case or not. Was there a post about this earlier? If I get anymore information I will pass it on. Are the early D2's anymore collectable than the later models? And are the D2's more in demand than the D4's? Thanks

PS
I have had to log in about 10 times today? Do other people have that problem or is it my computer?

Painter
12-22-2009, 01:20 PM
Same tractor from the govt auction. Discussion thread was on ACME last july when the auction was going!

Billy-
12-22-2009, 04:35 PM
That tractor is definatley a D2 5J, its a mid - late tractor of that series because the pilot motor exhaust goes back through the intake manifold. The fuel gauge postiton also idicates this as well.

Gordon - The D2 3J's and 5J's use the D3400 engine and the 4U's and 5U's use a D311, which is a totally redesigned motor and has more hp. The backends are pritty much the same but the later 4U's and 5U's where a longer machine and had longers tracks, more hp and a few other goodies.

Gordon.
12-22-2009, 11:17 PM
Billy thankyou for that.
I've never really been into D2 tractors. The are plenty in the UK and i've been offered a few. They all fetch around $6,000. Our only small tractor on our working fleet is a D3B it would make a welcome change to work on a smaller machine.
Gordon..

BullDozerBob
12-23-2009, 08:38 AM
Exhaust and intake on the same side-D3400 engine.
The U series 315 manifolds were on opposite side of the engine. OOPS--311 on the U model. 315 was the later D4 engine
BullDozerBob