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    I think that i have found a rotary scraper today i need to talk to the guy and see if he will sell it it is about as whde as my d2 and any one tell me more about them it looked like it hade orange paint on it. Yes it needs a little work but as far as i can tell it did not look to bat thanks vern

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    Vern, what is a rotary scraper?
    If it was painted orange, sounds like it was may be a Murray. Did it look like this?

    Sorry, not a good pic but was taken from the road side.

    I have a La Plant Choate scraper which works on a rotary system but looks a little differently.ChuckC and B4D2 have 2 models in working condition. Mine has some work to go before it is ready for work.

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    yes it looks like the first one. i had a guy tell me they were cald frezno's i do not know

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    They called them fresno's in our part,Never knew why.

    P S I have two drag type scapers of diff,sizes No tags. No Pics

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    hello ,just a link to why they are called fresno scrapers,bruce oz


    fresno scraper info
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresno_Scraper

    http://files.asme.org/ASMEORG/Commun...marks/5550.pdf




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    Yep! Them thar scraper's a Murray 4 sure! They were built in Port Elizabeth, South Africa by a company by the name of Welfitt & Oddy (AFAIK the Murrays were built under licence.

    We also a 3 yd very similar to the one in the left on the first picture. Pulled it with our D4 5T with a rear mounted self contained hydraulic pump.
    We later used it behind a Fiat 880 DT (4wd) wheeled tractor, and man did she move earth!

    Glum, you bring back memories when you post these images...

    Thanks for the memories. If I close my eyes I can hear the D4 5T with D4400 bark as the scraper dug in, and then you get the smell of freshly turned earth and that Cat diesel smell. Man, you've sure made my lunchtime MUCH shorter, but MUCH better!

    We also had a tip-cart from W&O that was finely balanced. Unloaded it would stay flat down, but as soon as you put some weight over the balancing point, WHAM, she'd offload faster than you can say "Jacob Zuma"... No hydraulics, just plain old gravity and ingenuity... We had our moments of fun with it as well. Visiting kids would be at the receiving end. We had a small 2-cyl Steyr P180 that we'd use for light runabouts if and when the Steyr would start, and not run away with you...

    Anyways. the clasp that would hold the loadbay down would be ever so gently unhitched once all was on board, and told to "hold tight" and off we'd go at a sedate pace. All would be standing on the front part of the loadbay, and then my brothers would move towards the rear end to upset the balance. As soon as the brothers started moving backwards that was the signal for the driver to slow down... Just before a complete standstill: Wham!!! and they'd all be standing on firm earth again...
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    Thys,
    I never realized Murray Scrapers were built under licence here.Thanks for that bit of info. Welfit Oddy is still alive and well here in the Bay.

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    Thumbs up Rotary Scraper...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2bluejon View Post
    I think that i have found a rotary scraper today i need to talk to the guy and see if he will sell it it is about as whde as my d2 and any one tell me more about them it looked like it hade orange paint on it. Yes it needs a little work but as far as i can tell it did not look to bat thanks vern
    2bluejon…Vern

    bruce oz, as correctly identified the “Fresno scrapers with out any question.

    Here is a little more information on the rotary scraper. The photo below will give you some idea as to the size of the rotary scraper that will match your D2, as in horse power request. I have included some information take from an article published some time ago in the ’Equipment Echoes”. Do you have any pictures of your find?

    “Sometime in the early 1920’s, a new type of scraper was introduced. Known as the rotary or roll-over scraper, in became universally know as the “tumblebug” scraper. More closely related to the Fresno scraper than the wheeler, these scrapers were designed exclusively to be pulled by tractors--most commonly crawler tractors. One man could operate the tractor and the scraper thus providing a significant cost saving over the horse -drawn drag and Fresno scrapers which oftentimes required two men. The “tumblebug” scraper still preformed as a drag scraper, but the operator was able to dump the load by pulling a lever that allowed the bowl to rotate to an upside down position, thus dumping the load. These scrapers were ultimately offered by many manufacturers. An incomplete list would include the Perry Scraper Co., Euclid Road Machinery Co., Roderick Lean Co., Gustav Schaefer Co., H.C.Shaw Co., Wiard Plow Co., Atlas Scraper Co., Sidney Automatic Scraper Co., J.D.Adams Co., Russell Grader Co., and Trackson Co.. almost from the beginning, several of these types were offered with two wheels, enabling it to carry the load rather than drag it across the ground.” (HCEA. Equipment Echoes Issue #68)

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    Similar scoops were sold in Australia by Britstand, as a "Britstand"Rotary Fresno and the "Britstand Roto Scraper.
    "Britstand" 2 Wheel Rotary Scoops in hydraulic or rope control are also
    advertised in the Britstand Field Pocket Book 1956.

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    Bruce Oz, thanks for the links. Very interesting. GWH

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