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Did Cat ever build a 13000G?

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Bruce P
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That is, a Gasoline (or natural gas/propane) version of the D13000. Just curious.

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Sat, Nov 5, 2016 9:13 PM
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Bruce,

Back in the day, I was not all that familiar with Cat engine models, but I was involved with some new well head treatment construction for water wells for the City of Riverside CA. All the wells dated back to late '20s into the '60s and were powered with natural gas engines by Cat, Waukesha and others. One of the Cats had a pony start like a 2U so I think it was a 13000. Others here can confirm or tell me I am wrong. That is the best I can do.

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Sat, Nov 5, 2016 10:19 PM
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Bruce,

Back in the day, I was not all that familiar with Cat engine models, but I was involved with some new well head treatment construction for water wells for the City of Riverside CA. All the wells dated back to late '20s into the '60s and were powered with natural gas engines by Cat, Waukesha and others. One of the Cats had a pony start like a 2U so I think it was a 13000. Others here can confirm or tell me I am wrong. That is the best I can do.

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Yes, they did build a 13000G arrangement...
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Sat, Nov 5, 2016 11:28 PM
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Yes, they did build a 13000G arrangement...
Thanks OM and Jan, very interesting. I suppose the chances of finding that stuff would be low.

Not trying to be a bother, but was there the same conversion for an 8800?

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Sat, Nov 5, 2016 11:48 PM
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Thanks OM and Jan, very interesting. I suppose the chances of finding that stuff would be low.

Not trying to be a bother, but was there the same conversion for an 8800?

Thanks again

BP
The Attachment brochure I'm referring to does not list an 8800G gas option. Just the 13000 version.
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 12:13 AM
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The Attachment brochure I'm referring to does not list an 8800G gas option. Just the 13000 version.
That is so cool, I'd love to see one of those. I can imagine a G3408 in a truck!
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 12:20 AM
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That is so cool, I'd love to see one of those. I can imagine a G3408 in a truck!
Also had Duel Fuel Engine....
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 1:02 AM
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Also had Duel Fuel Engine....
Old Magnet, do they mention the minimum gravity for the crude oil to run in the duel fuel engines? San Ardo crude is about an 8 gravity. Really thick and has to be steamed to get it out of the ground. North Dakota Bakken crude runs 42 to 46 gravity. Bakken crude refines to about 60% diesel fuel. It would be interesting to know what these old systems would digest.
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Old Magnet, do they mention the minimum gravity for the crude oil to run in the duel fuel engines? San Ardo crude is about an 8 gravity. Really thick and has to be steamed to get it out of the ground. North Dakota Bakken crude runs 42 to 46 gravity. Bakken crude refines to about 60% diesel fuel. It would be interesting to know what these old systems would digest.
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There are no set parameters for running crude. Each application is specific. For further information see
http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/content/Caterpillar/CM20160713-53120-36634 . Found in Appendix 2, beginning page #48, Form # LEBW4976. This is more for late model engines but principals still apply to the older stuff.
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There are no set parameters for running crude. Each application is specific. For further information see
http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/content/Caterpillar/CM20160713-53120-36634 . Found in Appendix 2, beginning page #48, Form # LEBW4976. This is more for late model engines but principals still apply to the older stuff.
I know that they built a 13000 nat gas I think Ziegler rebuilt 4 of them a few years ago for a power plant in iowa
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 5:34 AM
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I know that they built a 13000 nat gas I think Ziegler rebuilt 4 of them a few years ago for a power plant in iowa
Thanks Old Magnet.
Interesting read. The Cat requirements are for an API 30 to 45 gravity for crude fuel. It would be interesting to see a cromatagraph of the Bakken oil. I don't know all the trace components that would apply. I do know that we can't ship oil with a BS&W (base sediment & water) over 0.5% as called for in the Cat specs.

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