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3 years 8 months ago #221142 by juiceman
Replied by juiceman on topic Still puzzled!
Well, I went to take photos of the serial tags today, just to ease my mind. NONE!!! Paint was so thick I couldn’t and wouldn’t try to scrape in the usual places. Decal says H, a few more photos to look at.
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3 years 8 months ago #221148 by Wombat
Replied by Wombat on topic Still puzzled!
Yes it definitely is a D8H, the brake pedals and decelerator give it away. It is a nice tractor, also has nose weights.

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3 years 8 months ago #221154 by juiceman
Replied by juiceman on topic Still puzzled!

Yes it definitely is a D8H, the brake pedals and decelerator give it away. It is a nice tractor, also has nose weights.

Wombat


Wombat: Please teach me? If it was a K model, would the brake pedals be hanging from the dash rather than protruding from the floor?
I also noticed 2 element style oil filters, rather than spin on?
I really wanted to get serial numbers, as my friend was told it was an “in between” built tractor by the sellers, for what it was worth.
Not trying to beat this post to death, just fueling my own curiosity.
TIA, JM.

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3 years 8 months ago #221170 by Deas Plant.
Replied by Deas Plant. on topic My Understanding.
Hi, Juiceman.
You are right about the brake and decelerator pedals hanging down from the dash on the D8K. They also had 'inter-connected' steering with the hand controls releasing the steering clutches for the first part of their travel and then applying the steering brake for the last part of their travel.

Another notable feature was the exhaust muffler laying horizontal above the hood on the right side, all same D9H and the throttle lever was straight instead of having a bend in it like the D8Hs.

That particular machine shows a couple of 'changeover' differences from earlier D8Hs, the hydraulic tank being one of them. The earlier H's had the fuel tank offset to the left and a different shaped hydraulic tank to the right of the fuel tank, partially over the fender.

Wombat may have more to add.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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3 years 7 months ago #222098 by neil
Replied by neil on topic More D8L SA info
Since this is the type of topic I'm really interested in, I picked up a parts catalog and operator's manual for the D8L SA which is a 4FB1-up serial # range. The main difference in the powertrain is that instead of the torque convertor, it has an hydraulic multiplate clutch (same type of arrangement as in the main transmission) with two sections - one clutch for direct drive, and one clutch for 1.35:1 underdrive. Each powershift gear is split and the speed progression is 1L-1D-2L-2D-3L-3D per the manual. The hand control is a u-shaped setup like the "regular" powershift control (3F-2R - blocked out 3R?) but instead side to side movement selects direct or under, and forward-back engages the clutch. The operator's manual says while it's possible to make full-power splitter and powershift changes, it's recommended to use the decelerator to reduce the stress on the change and increase component life / improve operator comfort. This general arrangement is like the D3C SA in that the clutch function is provided by an hydraulically actuated clutch. Behind the splitter/clutch control are four external rear hydraulic remotes, the first of which also has a float position. The rear drawbar can swing or be pinned.
One item the operator's manual mentioned is to keep an ear open for track pin squeaks, and when stopped, to check the relative heat on the ends of the track pins. This is apparently to check for dry joints - they'd squeak and/or get hotter than non-dry joints.


Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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3 years 7 months ago #222109 by Wombat
Replied by Wombat on topic D8L SA Clutch operation
Hi Neil,
What you have found is interesting, the operation procedure for the 2 speed clutch somewhat different to the tractor that I had, it only had an electric switch to change the two speed, I also saw in a loggers shed in Kutching in Borneo a logging D8L SA with the same system, just an electric switch, so there must have been a couple of variants in the short run of these tractors.
Wombat

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3 years 7 months ago #222110 by neil
Replied by neil on topic Still puzzled!
Yes, I was surprised when I saw that in the manual because I was expecting to see the switch that you mentioned. The operator's manual and the parts catalog align on the lever so I wonder why, and when, the change occurred. I think you mentioned that the switch had two positions while the lever effectively has three (clutch disengaged in either gear, or engaged in either direct or low) so the actual function would have been different too. Couple of pictures showing the arrangement. According to the operator's manual, moving the speed/direction lever will disengage the clutch. It also mentions six forward and reverse speeds so I guess 3R isn't locked out, although every reference I've seen online says it's a six forward / four reverse machine.






Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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