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2 years 8 months ago #230751 by mog5858
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 I am trying to help out a fellow ACMOC member but me and the new search engine are not getting along very well.  all I looking for is the torque valves for the head gasket and the fireing order for a 1929 Ten.

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2 years 8 months ago #230779 by willwingo
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Martin-
From the Bob LaVoie book:
"With the exception of the 2 ton, all of the gas Caterpillar tractors have a firing order of 1-3-4-2".
I have never seen a specific torque value for the heads on any of the early tractors. Attached is a scan from Caterpillar form 30946, giving torque values for various "common nuts, bolts  and capscrews".

 
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2 years 8 months ago #230843 by Steve A
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I have that book and used that firing order info on my gas 40, its wrong for the larger gas cats, I believe the 30 and larger are different.

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1 year 2 months ago #245803 by Scott Kuehn
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Have you ever seen a torque pattern for the earlier Cat head bolts, i.e. Cat 20 (4200G) and a Cat 30?

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1 year 2 months ago #245805 by ctsnowfighter
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Head tightening sequences ---
I was always taught to work from the middle of the head toward the ends and do so in incremental amount of torque. Working the head at least two times.
A "trick" for many of those old engines and yes - we used the old head gaskets many times. Paint them with aluminum paint. Make a big difference. Another used heavy grease.

RE: Firing Orders --- if you can see/watch the valve train. rotate the crankshaft through the four strokes. Starting with #1 on TDC both valves closed. Next cylinder with both valves closed will be the second in firing order, and so forth. That is getting back to the basics. (Four cycle engines)

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1 year 2 months ago #245820 by kittyman1
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agree with CTS on head tightening sequence: start in middle and work outward to the ends....in 3 equal steps

always dropping GOLD, all you have to do is just pick it UP !
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1 year 2 months ago #245822 by trainzkid88
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its a rough rule and it work on most is start in the middle and work out in a spiral in around three steps work well if no specific method.

cts mentiond aluminium paint anther that works very well is VHT coppercote it specifically for that purpose. as a dressing on heads manifolds and there gasketing. you can also use hylomar which is a acl gaskets product. and oil gaskets a old trick is grease allows you to remove cover plates without destroying the gasket. even grease on its own will work to get you home.

on a 4 cycl 4 stroke one is on tdc when the valves of 4 are "rocking" most 4 cyl use a 1342 firing order. as 4 stokes work in pairs the same trick works with 6 and 8 cylinder engines too. which ever cylinder fires 3rd is the one to watch.
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