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D2 engine side panel patterns
2 years 7 months ago #231149
by d2gary
D2 engine side panel patterns was created by d2gary
This is directed at neil to start off but if there's enough interest I would be willing to loan them to the club.
I was trying to get measurements for Neil to reproduce side panels but after trying several times it's pretty obvious that it's not going to be possible for me to get enough accurate measurements to make it happen. So I'm willing to ship the 2 side panels that I have to Neil for patterns with the condition that they be passed on to the next member who needs them.
Neil let me know if you're interested and maybe we can get these passed around for everyone to use.
I was trying to get measurements for Neil to reproduce side panels but after trying several times it's pretty obvious that it's not going to be possible for me to get enough accurate measurements to make it happen. So I'm willing to ship the 2 side panels that I have to Neil for patterns with the condition that they be passed on to the next member who needs them.
Neil let me know if you're interested and maybe we can get these passed around for everyone to use.
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2 years 7 months ago #231154
by Mike Meyer
Replied by Mike Meyer on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
Hi Scott, that is a generous offer, don't forget you guys Stateside have Scott Flint in California making top class sheet metal for all the old Cats, he has invested over $100,000 of his own money setting up his workshop with all the tooling and dies for the Cats, and I hear all his customers have been very happy with his work.
Obviously his parts are not free, but the prices I've heard suggest he is not charging much, relative to the higher prices for steel we all see now, you might remember the story I wrote for the ACMOC mag about visiting Scott in 2019, he's a really nice guy, and impressed me, just his timber shipping cases were works of art.
All the best
Mike
Obviously his parts are not free, but the prices I've heard suggest he is not charging much, relative to the higher prices for steel we all see now, you might remember the story I wrote for the ACMOC mag about visiting Scott in 2019, he's a really nice guy, and impressed me, just his timber shipping cases were works of art.
All the best
Mike
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2 years 7 months ago #231155
by neil
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
That's a very generous offer Scott, thanks very much! This is what I like about the club : )
I was about to say yes please, but let me check with Scott Flint first what items he makes. If it turns out he doesn't have what I need (wife says "want" : ), then let's chat. I was thinking a while back that actually if the main bends were put in place, it would be fine to not take the measurements for the holes, because if I added the holes with the part in situ, they'd be spot on. My fender holes don't line up exactly and that's from Cat original parts that were already on the machine. What are your thoughts on that approach? Would that make measuring easier? If it wouldn't, no problem, we can figure out next steps.
I was about to say yes please, but let me check with Scott Flint first what items he makes. If it turns out he doesn't have what I need (wife says "want" : ), then let's chat. I was thinking a while back that actually if the main bends were put in place, it would be fine to not take the measurements for the holes, because if I added the holes with the part in situ, they'd be spot on. My fender holes don't line up exactly and that's from Cat original parts that were already on the machine. What are your thoughts on that approach? Would that make measuring easier? If it wouldn't, no problem, we can figure out next steps.
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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2 years 7 months ago #231158
by D4Jim
ACMOC Member 26 years
D47U 1950 #10164
Cat 112 1949 #3U1457
Cat 40 Scraper #1W-5494
Replied by D4Jim on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
Cat has drawings available for most "obsolete parts" and might have the drawings for the side panels. I have obtained several drawings from Cat to fabricate obsolete parts and although they supposedly charge for the drawings, my dealer has given them to me free.
ACMOC Member 26 years
D47U 1950 #10164
Cat 112 1949 #3U1457
Cat 40 Scraper #1W-5494
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2 years 7 months ago #231171
by d2gary
Replied by d2gary on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
Hey Neil, I think the biggest problem isn't just the bend its the curves and recessed features that are stamped in. Wouldn't be impossible to fabricate them but would be hard for the average Joe to do without a good pattern for direct comparison. I'm sure there's guys that could do it from drawings. I'm not the guy to do the drawings or fabricate from the drawings.
If someone is reproducing the panels I would say its money well spent. If not my "experienced" panels are available
If someone is reproducing the panels I would say its money well spent. If not my "experienced" panels are available
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2 years 7 months ago #231172
by Mike Meyer
Replied by Mike Meyer on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
Hi Neil, can you please let us know what you find out from Scott, I have no idea what he charges for his parts, so it would be interesting to see a price list, he was making nice new pilot motor fuel tanks too I remember from my visit.
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Mike
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Mike
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2 years 7 months ago #231173
by neil
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
Ah that's good to know Scott. I had thought that the panels were basically just flat with bends put in them
Will do Mike
Will do Mike
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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2 years 7 months ago #231175
by bcwayne
Replied by bcwayne on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
The side panels for a "U" series are basically flat panels with a bend top and bottom... the panels for the "J" series are more complex because they have a curve built in at the radiator end. And yes, Scott Flint has made the ones for the "J" series.
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2 years 7 months ago #231182
by juiceman
Replied by juiceman on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
Flint made the for my 4U. Based off of factory drawings.
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2 years 7 months ago #231285
by seyser
Replied by seyser on topic D2 engine side panel patterns
The panel looks nice. Do they come with the latches as well?
Jeremy
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