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2 months 1 week ago #260250
by neil
When you push the clutch lever forward, make sure it releases over the "snap". The handle on the lever should move a good 12" I guess (no D2 handy to check with). I've seen ponies run with 0.250 of axial float but if yours is 0.125 or less, it'll hold together for a while so long as you keep the oil fresh and full. Fresh means not diluted with fuel. When stopping the pony, turn the fuel valve off and let the carb run out of gas. When you next go to start it and check the oil, make sure the level has not gone up. If it has, the valve may be leaking and fuel has leaked into the crankcase. Do not run it until you have changed the oil - it only takes a quart so it's inexpensive to change if you're ever in doubt. Do not overfill. To release the pinion, open the small round cover on the clutch housing left side top (don't lose the 1/4 bolts...), turn the pony over until you can see a latch (one on each side 180 apart), then push the rear end of the latch and it will spring open - use a screwdriver or similar, not your finger or you'll lose some skin - enjoy!
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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2 months 2 hours ago #260440
by jmvesik@gmail.com
Here is a photo of where the pinion release on my 5U0928 D2. I am only about 5 months ahead of you on owning a D2. If you pull that left floorboard and open the cover, and the pinion is engaged, you will only see the very end of it. Mine released with a large screwdriver, and it snaps back hard. Just for reference, I found a good quality reproduction of the parts manual from "Jensales" on line. I also found the "D2 Service Manual Tractor Engines" for the D311 engine and a reproduction of the "Operations and Maintenance Instructions for Caterpillar D2 Tractor" on the web. These have been very useful in getting mine running. I am not sure what magneto you have in your pony, but mine was a Standard Magneto and the company is still out there and very good resources.
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2 months 1 hour ago #260442
by Potato Wilson
Good morning jmvesik. Just having breakfast and got your post. This is very helpful info, thank you. I was going to dig into the project again the other day, but with the rainy forecast I wimped out. I did stop by and actually take down the ez-up so that it wouldn’t get destroyed. So I took a little time to look things over again and saw that little pinion cover. I’m looking forward to getting in there and releasing that.
I’ll have to look at the magneto to see what brand it is. The pony has good visible spark, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed with that. I’m ready to re-assemble the pony fuel system and give it a go.
Fortunately the seller is fine with me working on it in my spare time. I’ve decided to go ahead and drain the diesel engine fuel system too, flush and install new filters before I try to start it. I’ve ordered the filters and they should be in soon. I actually want to get that completed before I even try to start the pony, because I know that when the pony fires I’m going to get excited and it’ll be GAME ON!
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2 months 1 hour ago #260444
by jmvesik@gmail.com
I had to winch mine on to a trailer to get it home. I drained all the various oils from the tranny, final drive, pinion and fuel pump prior to starting it. I didn't find much water even though it had sat for a year. Actually more water in the turning clutch and brake compartments. "Squatch253" on You Tube has some great videos. He completely rebuilds an older J series D2, but most of it is relevant. I keep going back to see how things fit.
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1 month 4 weeks ago #260450
by Potato Wilson
Yeah I’ve been watching his You Tubes and some others. Crawler on the brain 🤣. Sure am grateful for the folks that have the patience to make the videos.
Also was directed to d2gary’s thread with the chronology of his restoration…WOW! Inspirational and intimidating at the same time.
Sure am hoping to get this one running to load it. I bought it with the assurance that it’s a good running machine that’s just been sitting. We’ll see😝
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1 month 4 weeks ago #260452
by neil
It's really great to see a couple of fellows embarking on these projects. I went through my D2 5U13753 a few years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. I have a bunch of posts and photos on here. Search by my handle or that serial #. I have three more projects of my own - fit a D2 Hyster winch and D3 running gear to the 5U, a 3J that was fully frozen that will get a #44 hydraulic control and rear remotes for ag work, and a rare electric start D2 Teale loader that I bought on marketplace earlier this year that actually runs. I look forward to your posts and capers : ) We love photos and youtube videos. Do not hesitate to ask all the questions - none are too simple or dumb.
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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1 month 4 weeks ago #260453
by trainzkid88
the dumb question is one not asked.
to help stop the end float getting worse what was recomended to me by a old farmer was to make a couple timber wedges to support the pony flywheel when your working the machine. that way it doesnt flog out so much. neil did post about his adventure in fixing one of his and some upgrades he made to lessen the load on the bushings and the risk of them flogging out. it does help to know a friendly machinist.
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1 month 4 weeks ago #260458
by Potato Wilson
Exactly why I joined! I knew this would be one of the best resources for information, as well as a venue for making some “pen-pals” .
Thanks everyone for your support, guidance, and fellowship.
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1 month 4 weeks ago #260470
by neil
What trainzkid is referring to is something a couple of us have done, which is to make an improvement to the bearing arrangement for the pony's crankshaft. End float from the factory is controlled by locating the two main bearings using drilled holes in the main bearings and dowels to locate the bearings. This is a poor design approach and is responsible for many crankshaft woes. What I did based on another member's tactic was to machine the crank and the adjoining crankcase flanges to accept a thrust washer (bronze in my case). In this way, axial float is maintained much more reliably and last much longer, and removes any reliance on the dowels which now only have to prevent main bearing rotation in the case bore. If you find that you need to machine the crank, I'd recommend doing this at the same time as it's not a lot of extra effort (I think my guy said it was an hour or two of machinist time) and the only parts are the two thrust washers. The key factors are to take all measurements with new gaskets in place on the crankcase cover and bolted down to torque specs, and the crank must be correctly centered between the two cylinder bores so the correct amount of material can be removed from each side of the crank, and from each face of the crankcase and the crankcase cover. Other than that, the two crank bearings are shortened a tad so they do not bear on the thrust washer, and then you're off to the races. There may be some photos in a thread of mine on the forum here somewhere
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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