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D7 3T VS RD7 and RD6 parts interchangeability?

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daron
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Are D73T parts somewhat interchangeable with RD7 trackframes and RD6 pony (at least the engine half or (maybe) the whole thing) and engine waterpump parts (the pump shaft).

I have an RD7 with a very poor trackframe and an RD6 with a bad pony engine and waterpump shaft. Would 3T parts help me?

Thanks, Daron
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Sat, Mar 12, 2011 3:57 AM
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daron,

not really sure if this will be helpful, but it has been for me...

here is a web site where you can put in the part number you are looking for and it will give you all of the interchangeable parts..

http://www.tpaktopc.net/cgi-bin/Cat_Part/Cat_Part.cgi?findPartNum=2k50

give a try and hopefully it will work out.

rod
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Sat, Mar 12, 2011 4:01 AM
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daron,

not really sure if this will be helpful, but it has been for me...

here is a web site where you can put in the part number you are looking for and it will give you all of the interchangeable parts..

http://www.tpaktopc.net/cgi-bin/Cat_Part/Cat_Part.cgi?findPartNum=2k50

give a try and hopefully it will work out.

rod
RD6 and D73T pony motors are not interchangeable.


Matt
RD4,RD6 ,D73T, #11 Grader, 977F
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Sat, Mar 12, 2011 6:08 AM
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RD6 and D73T pony motors are not interchangeable.


Matt
3T is totally diff engine but the Rd8 RD7 and Rd6 are the sane and all the stuff is interchangable thing like bearing pistons,liners, valves and the Rd6 uses just 1 of the RD8 head all the small gaskets Ect.
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Sat, Mar 12, 2011 7:33 AM
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3T is totally diff engine but the Rd8 RD7 and Rd6 are the sane and all the stuff is interchangable thing like bearing pistons,liners, valves and the Rd6 uses just 1 of the RD8 head all the small gaskets Ect.
Thanks Rod, Matt, and Willie. I'm still seriously considering acquiring the NonOp 3T. I love the sound of big bore slow turning engines!

Willie- I still haven't had the Bootjack 30 running on its own. I've finally got the mag working ok (at least some of the time) and the firing order ok. I did somewhat clean the carb but could only get it to fire, when pulling it with my 8C20, when shooting gas into the intake with a squirt bottle. I later redisassembled the carb and found the main needle bushing loose. Corrected that, again blew out those various 'mystery passages' and reinstalled it. Haven't tried starting it again though. Too many projects, tasks, etc., too little time!

Thanks again, Daron
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Sat, Mar 12, 2011 12:42 PM
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Thanks Rod, Matt, and Willie. I'm still seriously considering acquiring the NonOp 3T. I love the sound of big bore slow turning engines!

Willie- I still haven't had the Bootjack 30 running on its own. I've finally got the mag working ok (at least some of the time) and the firing order ok. I did somewhat clean the carb but could only get it to fire, when pulling it with my 8C20, when shooting gas into the intake with a squirt bottle. I later redisassembled the carb and found the main needle bushing loose. Corrected that, again blew out those various 'mystery passages' and reinstalled it. Haven't tried starting it again though. Too many projects, tasks, etc., too little time!

Thanks again, Daron
Daron If you like that sound so well maybe you better drive up and buy this nice RD6 with a little work it would just be cracklin away making music to your ears. Talking about getting things running hows my DW10 running LOL.
Maybe stop by and visit you on way to Vegas,your only 10 miles off the hwy. The plan is to stop get free dinner from Pete then head to Mikes get $4000 from him for the D40then swing by your place get $3000 for the RD6 and off to Vegas to triple my money, Now hows that sound LOL Im such a great gamble that Jackie is making me take a rental car so I cant hock it to the Pawn Stars for gambling money.
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Sat, Mar 12, 2011 10:32 PM
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This wheel has a removable flange doesn't it? Never seen on that had enough drop in the center to put the tire on over the fixed flange.

I would try a backhoe or loader bucket. Probably can also use the grader blade for more precise pressure. Also helpful to remove all rust with a powered wire brush or side grinder before trying to put the tire on. Then grease it up with tire mounting soap and put in under the blade so you can push down right next to the rim and force the inside bead lip past the lock-ring groove which is probably what it's catching on. Don't go too far in one spot before spinning the wheel and pushing in another. Work your way around and it should go on. Once it's all the way past the lock-ring groove it should push on down just by standing on it.

Never had one of those big mammas' lock-ring come off, but had a 15" one come off one day. I was being cautious and it just flew across the yard, but that was just a little one. Every inch you are away from something like that can make a big difference in how bad you are hurt if it goes off! I also like to use chains around one, especially the tubeless ones where you have trouble getting it to seal up and inflate, so you're right there on top of it as it begins to move. We pack those leaky ones with tire grease to get them to begin to move and eventually seal up tight. The grease helps seal the bead and o-ring but it scares me to have it on the lock ring area, so we clean that off and lock the ring in there with the vise-grips.

Good luck!
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare timešŸ˜„
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Mon, Mar 14, 2011 12:14 AM
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This wheel has a removable flange doesn't it? Never seen on that had enough drop in the center to put the tire on over the fixed flange.

I would try a backhoe or loader bucket. Probably can also use the grader blade for more precise pressure. Also helpful to remove all rust with a powered wire brush or side grinder before trying to put the tire on. Then grease it up with tire mounting soap and put in under the blade so you can push down right next to the rim and force the inside bead lip past the lock-ring groove which is probably what it's catching on. Don't go too far in one spot before spinning the wheel and pushing in another. Work your way around and it should go on. Once it's all the way past the lock-ring groove it should push on down just by standing on it.

Never had one of those big mammas' lock-ring come off, but had a 15" one come off one day. I was being cautious and it just flew across the yard, but that was just a little one. Every inch you are away from something like that can make a big difference in how bad you are hurt if it goes off! I also like to use chains around one, especially the tubeless ones where you have trouble getting it to seal up and inflate, so you're right there on top of it as it begins to move. We pack those leaky ones with tire grease to get them to begin to move and eventually seal up tight. The grease helps seal the bead and o-ring but it scares me to have it on the lock ring area, so we clean that off and lock the ring in there with the vise-grips.

Good luck!
Instructions in the 112 Operator's and Maintenance Book state to make use of the drop center portion of the rim (rears) to permit insertion of the tire tool to pry the tire off the rim one side at a time. Works the same for any drop center rim. If the drop center is off set on the rim, work from the side where the drop is closest to the rim edge.
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Mon, Mar 14, 2011 5:02 AM
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I had a rim stuck on the hub of our 212 when I was working on it several years ago. Had it off the spindle and laying down on concrete and still couldn't knock the hub out of the rim. Tried the backhoe bucket etc. without success. Finally got the biggest sledge hammer I could find and started whacking the hub out near the rim. It didn't take long before it popped out. Act of desperation I guess, but it worked.

In your case, if you don't have any luck with it on the hub, you could put a jack inbetween the rim and frame, tighten it up and then smack the hub with a sledge. Might need to rotate the wheel to another spot and try again, (several times?)

Another thing you could try which might help you get past the lock ring groove is to insert a very thin (say 29 gauge) smooth piece of sheetmetal between the bead and the rim. Seems like the inner edge of some tire beads is very sharp and the sharp edge catches the lock ring groove.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare timešŸ˜„
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Reply to rditz:
daron,

not really sure if this will be helpful, but it has been for me...

here is a web site where you can put in the part number you are looking for and it will give you all of the interchangeable parts..

http://www.tpaktopc.net/cgi-bin/Cat_Part/Cat_Part.cgi?findPartNum=2k50

give a try and hopefully it will work out.

rod
Without tires on it, you could take a rosebud torch and heat the rim. Should expand it pretty dramatically being a large circle like that. Could even build a charcoal fire with air blower (hair dryer works pretty well) underneath and have the rim turning to warm it up. We almost melted a subsoiler shank we were heating to straighten one day. It was buried in the charcoal and we couldn't see how hot it was getting. Sure did straighten easy though!
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare timešŸ˜„
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