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    Default link to photos

    http://img400.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=header4oq.jpg

    When I click this link I go to Imageshack home page. does this link no longer work or do i need help in useing it.

    Thank You all who have asked and answered questions on this thread. It has help me much with my 1955 D2 5U with a dead factory 24 volt starter.
    ChrisJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzz View Post
    I have a D47u and a 12 8t grader and was thinking of going to a direct electric starter. I have paid close attention to everything Old Magnet has posted here and at his Image shack. I finally got around to calling Components Parts Co in CA for the starter drive 3-293A. They said "out of stock" try our other store in KS. They said "can't sell to anyone but rebuilders". I had done a lot of surfing to find someone closer and then anyone at all with no luck. Today I found what looks like a great supplier on EBAY.

    They are:
    Ebay seller name: triodiode

    Following is copied from their Ebay store:
    Weitzel's D.C. Electric Norwalk, Ohio 419-668-2844

    Custom Rebuilder of Starters, Alternators and Generators

    Doing it yourself? We sell parts.

    BUSHINGS, BEARINGS, BRUSHES, BRUSH SPRINGS, SOLENOIDS, ARMATURES, FIELDS, STATORS, ROTORS, GENERATOR KITS, STARTER KITS, VOLTAGE REGULATORS, THREW BOLTS, SHIFT FORKS, BRUSH HOLDERS AND MORE!


    Have questions on other parts. Give us a call. Open 8:00-5:00 Monday- Friday.
    Saturday 8:00 to Noon
    Closed Sundays
    Ohio 419-668-2844
    Toll Free 1-866-840-2844


    They have the 11 ($61.39)and 12 ($56.04) teeth starter drives.

    Caterpillar Helix Starter Drive 40 MT Conversion 12 T Item number: 250072356243
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cater...6243QQtcZphoto

    Delco Remy Starter Starter Drive Helix Gear Caterpillar Item number: 250027274280
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco...4280QQtcZphoto

    I have a 42 MT starter, should I use the 11 or 12 tooth?


    Thanks,
    Muzz
    if you don't mind, what are you doing with the old electric system start parts?? will they fit a D2

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    here is the website where i get my starters from. they are only 1200kms south of me, lol.

    http://ws1.wilsonautoelectric.com/ec...art=91-01-3701

    i get the auto parts store 300kms away to order the starter in from the south then i drive down and pick it up to save on freight charges. the starter is about $378.00 cdn money.

    i had the helix bendix and nose cone in stock from 2006 when i bought a bunch on ebay but i can't remember the numbers right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzz View Post
    I have a D47u and a 12 8t grader and was thinking of going to a direct electric starter. I have paid close attention to everything Old Magnet has posted here and at his Image shack. I finally got around to calling Components Parts Co in CA for the starter drive 3-293A. They said "out of stock" try our other store in KS. They said "can't sell to anyone but rebuilders". I had done a lot of surfing to find someone closer and then anyone at all with no luck. Today I found what looks like a great supplier on EBAY.

    They are:
    Ebay seller name: triodiode

    Following is copied from their Ebay store:
    Weitzel's D.C. Electric Norwalk, Ohio 419-668-2844

    Custom Rebuilder of Starters, Alternators and Generators

    Doing it yourself? We sell parts.

    BUSHINGS, BEARINGS, BRUSHES, BRUSH SPRINGS, SOLENOIDS, ARMATURES, FIELDS, STATORS, ROTORS, GENERATOR KITS, STARTER KITS, VOLTAGE REGULATORS, THREW BOLTS, SHIFT FORKS, BRUSH HOLDERS AND MORE!


    Have questions on other parts. Give us a call. Open 8:00-5:00 Monday- Friday.
    Saturday 8:00 to Noon
    Closed Sundays
    Ohio 419-668-2844
    Toll Free 1-866-840-2844


    They have the 11 ($61.39)and 12 ($56.04) teeth starter drives.

    Caterpillar Helix Starter Drive 40 MT Conversion 12 T Item number: 250072356243
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cater...6243QQtcZphoto

    Delco Remy Starter Starter Drive Helix Gear Caterpillar Item number: 250027274280
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco...4280QQtcZphoto

    I have a 42 MT starter, should I use the 11 or 12 tooth?


    Thanks,
    Muzz
    Muzz,
    I also have a d4 7u and have converted it to direct start. I have the parts manual form 7u27570 to 7u44307. From 7u27507 to 7u35746 they used pinion 6b1360 which is a 13t. I'm also converting my 7t No. 12 grader to direct start. I get my starters from Starter Alternator Specialists in Billings, MT (406)248-4335 ask for Todd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rchrdbarnard View Post
    Muzz,
    I also have a d4 7u and have converted it to direct start. I have the parts manual form 7u27570 to 7u44307. From 7u27507 to 7u35746 they used pinion 6b1360 which is a 13t. I'm also converting my 7t No. 12 grader to direct start. I get my starters from Starter Alternator Specialists in Billings, MT (406)248-4335 ask for Todd.
    I have a D2 5U serial #13200+- that I just had converted to direct electric start. The gentleman that did the installation for me said it was a pretty simple process. He did not have to drill or cut anything. It came with a starter and a mounting bracket that was built to line up with pony motor mounting holes. I still have to use the compression release, although the company that sold it to me said I would not. Since I don't have glow plugs I turn it over for a few minutes with no compression and then give it a small shot of starter fluid, give it compression and it fires right over. I bought the material from Bryan from B & C Equipment in Newburg, Mo. 573-762-2280. He is very knowledgeable and gave great service. I had some questions once I got everything and he explained things very well and told me to call any time if I had any questions. I would highly recommend this company. This was not cheap but well worth it.

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    I just deleted his post and banned him.

    Thanks STEPHEN!

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    Great information here. Are those old machinery of caterpillar are the same with the new one?

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    Default I also used the quick bolt on setup. NO problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by silverstreak View Post
    I have a D2 5U serial #13200+- that I just had converted to direct electric start. The gentleman that did the installation for me said it was a pretty simple process. He did not have to drill or cut anything. It came with a starter and a mounting bracket that was built to line up with pony motor mounting holes. I still have to use the compression release, although the company that sold it to me said I would not. Since I don't have glow plugs I turn it over for a few minutes with no compression and then give it a small shot of starter fluid, give it compression and it fires right over. I bought the material from Bryan from B & C Equipment in Newburg, Mo. 573-762-2280. He is very knowledgeable and gave great service. I had some questions once I got everything and he explained things very well and told me to call any time if I had any questions. I would highly recommend this company. This was not cheap but well worth it.
    These systems seem to get some bad press but I like it. Yesterday I stick one 31 series battery in the 112 grader which had been sitting for 2 years. Shot of Walmart starting fluid in the small access I drilled and tapped in the cast air intake from the air filter and we were running in about 3 rounds of the engine crank. Leaky Boot

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