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J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020

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3 years 5 months ago #224392 by Elton
Good morning! I wrote to JP Pistons to inquire about oversized pistons for my D4 7U 36219 pony motor, got a quote and was attempting to place my order and they wrote back: "The piston we have is for the starter engine for D2, D4 & RD4 tractors years 1936 – 1940 not 1956. Would this be suitable?" Are these pistons compatible with my engine? My parts book shows a standard piston being 2F3665. I need .020 oversized. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks for the help! Elton

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #224410 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
I'm not the last word but bore and stroke is the same early and late. Might be some differences is rods, pistons pins and retainers but I'd think the pistons should work,
The 0.020" over version of the 2F3665 is a 8H2762.
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3 years 5 months ago #224411 by kittyman1
Replied by kittyman1 on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
that's interesting stuff Mag, never heard of 6 rings...not gasoline for sure...

diesels i think were common with 4 rings..many years and applications...

all engines have made leaps and bounds regarding engineering and reliability...efficiency etc

always dropping GOLD, all you have to do is just pick it UP !

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3 years 5 months ago #224414 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
You were to quick for me. Didn't realize at first I was looking at main engine piston/rods when the topic was pony pistons. My bad and the reason for the quick edit. But for the record 4G D4 main engine pistons are 6- ring

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3 years 5 months ago #224416 by hfdzl
Replied by hfdzl on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
If you want to use standard pistons you can have the pony bores sleeved. I have had several.done by auto machine shop.

R2 5E3562 SP U.S.A. W.9151
R2 5E3563 SP U.S.A. W.9152

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3 years 5 months ago #224417 by Elton
Replied by Elton on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
I am indeed asking about PONY pistons. From what I have heard the engines are mostly the same except for manifolds etc., but now I need pistons and JP seem to be the only manufacturer of any pistons now. They seem reasonably priced and I need oversized. I guess I gave too much information, the questions should have been are early and later D4 pony pistons the same? Evidently JP Pistons hasn't had the opportunity to check....or maybe they have??? Thanks! Elton

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3 years 5 months ago #224418 by neil
Replied by neil on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
Pretty sure I used JP pistons in my 3J pony - too long ago to remember (like yesterday... ; ) You could measure your wrist pin-to-piston crown distance, and the size of the wrist pin, and if they are the same as JP's, then I'd say you're probably good to go

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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3 years 5 months ago #224428 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
Here's the specs....
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3 years 5 months ago #224438 by kittyman1
Replied by kittyman1 on topic J P PISTONS JPO154 +.020
i agree with Neil, those are pretty low tech pistons considering whats available today. A few measurements should be all it takes to find something suitable.

-Have you heard of J E pistons? made in California i believe, that's the first thing i thought of, then realized J P, which are Australian made. Both are excellent products. There's quite a few piston manufacturers out there, or there was, this is a difficult time for many business'

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #224442 by trainzkid88
JP pistons are good stuff i had to order a piston for a BSA engine it came with rings, gudgeon pin and pin retainers. only took 2 weeks due to manufacture time. it fitted perfect. im sure if you sent them a copy of the spec sheet that OM posted they would be able to confirm it would fit and if not they may be able to make you a pair that will as all pistons are rough cast and then machined to size from a basic blank. or you could go billet aluminium and get a shop to turn up a couple for you.

as long as the crown to pivot centre is the same or slightly less(it would drop the compression slightly), the od is correct and pin size is correct it would work.

i seem to remember jp had the specs for the pistons they make on there website. they would provide them by request of course too.
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