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Surging Govenor

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16 years 1 month ago #1486 by bcwayne
Surging Govenor was created by bcwayne
Looking for some suggestions on how to cure a surging govenor on a " U " series D-2. The engine will surge at idle as well as under power... when pulling a disc it behaves when working hard such as climbing a hill, but will begin to surge when the load lightens.
I have been told that worn bearings or flat spots on the govenor rollers can cause this condition.... the bearings and shaft all look good... the 2 rollers each have a small flat spot worn in them ( see pic ) .... could those small flat spots account soley for my problem ????? or is there something else to check ????
In may 2003, Mike Cremonini posted on this forum that he had cured a surging D-2 govenor by " tweaking the govenor spring " .... can anyone elaborate on this ?? Thanks , Wayne

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16 years 1 month ago #1492 by SJ
Replied by SJ on topic Surging
Yes a gov. spring will cause it & the flat spots & bearings worn too but the pins in the weight assem. is a factor & also a sticky injection pump will cause that problem.Unhook the rack linkage from the gov. & see if it is free of binding but I think the big problem is in the weights & related parts that,s the cause & the thrust bearing could contribute too so this is the places to check out.

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16 years 1 month ago #1497 by ccjersey
Replied by ccjersey on topic Surging Govenor
look for slack or binding in something, spring is unlikely to make much difference there.

D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time:D

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16 years 1 month ago #1512 by bcwayne
Replied by bcwayne on topic Surging Govenor
Thanks for the suggestions..... I did order new rollers and bearings..... I will inspect the linkage, injection pumps, and weight assembly more closely before reassembly. Will post the results when shes running again. Wayne

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16 years 1 month ago #1581 by d23j
Replied by d23j on topic D2 's
I had my dads 4U in bits 2 time and it is fine under light load but slugish under heavy load every thing looks ok?????:confused:

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16 years 1 month ago #1583 by brewzer
Replied by brewzer on topic surging governor
When I purchased my Cat 10 it had a surging governor. I thought when I tore it down that I would take the governor apart and see what was wrong. I had partially taken the tractor apart and had to move it. When I did it ran like a clock. After checking things out I discovered the air cleaner was completely clogged with gunk,and that was one of the parts that I had taken off. The engine was starving for air making the governor surge. I don't know if it would work the same on a diesel but might be worth checking. - Wally

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16 years 1 month ago #1585 by SJ
Replied by SJ on topic Low performance
D23J What it sounds like with your dads tractor is the gov. spring is weak & also check the RPMs & should be 1710 RPMs high idle with no load on the engine (tractor setting).The correct gov. spring for it should be a 5F1940.All components inside a gov. has to balance out & when they don,t then power & performance suffers from it.

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16 years 1 month ago #1589 by OU@AL
Replied by OU@AL on topic Surging Govenor
I will second brewzer, if the other things you check out aren't the trouble, that air cleaner is a good place to start.

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16 years 1 month ago #1590 by Jack
Replied by Jack on topic Surging Govenor
Every time I washed my 5J D2 the governor would get sticky. It would over speed when a load was lessened, then die dead when it was slowed to what should be idle speed. I dried out the back housing, hosed the rack down with a good penetrating oil and put in a new cover gasket with some silicon sealer. No more trouble. It doesn't take much crud on the rack to make it pretty darned sticky.

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16 years 1 month ago #1591 by d23j
Replied by d23j on topic D2
Thanks SJ, the governor spring is not a good part number any more so I well have to look for a used on as every thing else is ok and they do not give specs for the spring thanks.Have checked the air cleaner more than once.

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