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225 lc no start

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2 years 4 weeks ago #236827 by dirtwaterfox
225 lc no start was created by dirtwaterfox
hoping some one can give me a direction to go, I have a 225 lc excavator, vin 51u06438, with the 3208, sits in shed most of the time, have not started since last summer, has always started 1st crank, today went to start, cranks great, no sound like starting, no smoke, only crank, using a little ether, did make smoke, feel like fuel issue, removed fuel filter, was full, using priming pump, pump hard to push, did open fuel bypass, pump primer a couple of times, good fuel came out, can hear what i think is a fuel shut off on top of pump clicking when key turned on and off, remove shut off solenoid,  pintle inside looks ok, any thoughts, thanks 
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2 years 4 weeks ago #236830 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic 225 lc no start
If it doesn't have an electric fuel pump at the tank [like 613 scrapers] it might be drawing air at the throttle shaft seal on the injection pump.
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2 years 4 weeks ago #236833 by dirtwaterfox
Replied by dirtwaterfox on topic 225 lc no start
I have not seen any sort of low pressure pump, tried to follow from tank to pump, there is a lever inside pump that shut off solenoid contacts, it stays at bottom of travel, i can raise lever, but just drops to bottom, not sure if should be spring loaded to top or if there is a low pressure pump that lifts this valve off of seat, thanks
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2 years 4 weeks ago - 2 years 4 weeks ago #236836 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic 225 lc no start
Might want to replace that shut off solenoid. There is a spring on the solenoid. The solenoid goes against a lever inside the pump.
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2 years 4 weeks ago - 2 years 4 weeks ago #236837 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic 225 lc no start
That lever sets on a shaft and the other end of the lever is on a tang or pin on the end, it just rocks back and forth when the solenoid pushes it down.

 
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1 year 11 months ago #237601 by dirtwaterfox
Replied by dirtwaterfox on topic 225 lc no start
made some headway on why she wont start, inside v-8 style high pressure fuel pump, i see 8 plungers, 4 of the lever collars were siezed to plungers, i took out fuel from pump & filled cavity with marvel oil to maybe see if they will free up, after a couple of weeks 2 have freed up, cannot get other 2 to free up, anybody have any ideas from here, im not sure if next step is to take plungers out while on machine if possible, if so does anyone know what tool is used to remove these, thanks

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1 year 11 months ago - 1 year 11 months ago #237604 by Rome K/G
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1 year 11 months ago #238091 by dirtwaterfox
Replied by dirtwaterfox on topic 225 lc no start
finally had time to work on my 225, after removing 2 stuck plungers & freeing them up, reinstalled to get running, just wanted to give a thanks to rome k/g & fellow at pumpguy s/c for all of yalls help. really do appreciate it

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1 year 11 months ago #238100 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic 225 lc no start
You're welcome! glad you got it running.

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