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3304DI water in oil

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2 months 3 days ago #239665 by 68dually
3304DI water in oil was created by 68dually
I have 518 skidder with coolant in the oil. It's blowing sludge out of the blowby tube and the oil level is twice as high as it should be. I purchased the machine sight unseen so I don't know the history. The turbo is shot and was so bad that it was making loud noises becasue it was rubbing the housing. No blades are missing. I'm wondering where I should start. I don't know whether the water in the oil ruined the turbo or whether the bad turbo ruined the engine. i drained the radiator and the antifreeze is nice and clean but most of it was gone. I only drained about 3 gallons out till it was empty. It has an air compessor. Air compressor, water pump, oil coolers, liner or head? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Randy
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2 months 3 days ago - 2 months 3 days ago #239666 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic 3304DI water in oil
Yea, could be any of those, liners get pin holes from electrolysis, oil cooler leaking would show up oil in the coolant due to higher pressure, water pump weep hole plugged will push coolant in oil, cracked head. Bad turbo sends oil into intake tube, damaged shaft and bearings cause fins to rub. Sounds like an out of frame rebuild is due.
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2 months 3 days ago #239668 by kittyman1
Replied by kittyman1 on topic 3304DI water in oil
totally agree with Rome, way to many issues here to guess at, a thorough rebuild is due otherwise you will be constantly going in circles...

Greatest Lie told to mankind: just give us 2 weeks to flatten the curve!
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2 months 3 days ago #239673 by trainzkid88
Replied by trainzkid88 on topic 3304DI water in oil
some turbos are liquid and oil cooled. but as others have said strip it down measure everything. sounds like its had a hard life. oh the "fun" when you buy something second-hand.you often buy someone else's problems. its the nature of the beast.

it might be a simple bad head gasket it might not. magnaflux or flaw check the head and block flaw check(dye check) you can do yourself magna flux is a engine shop job unless you have the gear.
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2 months 3 days ago #239675 by GMBM
Replied by GMBM on topic 3304DI water in oil
You need to be able to pressurize the cooling system then
Pull the cover off the timing housing in front of the water pump look to see signs of water trailing behind the gear
If not then the lower oil pan to see the bottom of the liners
Does it have an oil cooler ?
You should be ale to determine were the water is coming from with out completely dissembling it

Greg
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2 months 3 days ago #239676 by 68dually
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Thanks everybody. I'll update with progress.
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2 months 18 hours ago #239736 by trainzkid88
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gregs idea is a good one i just might show where it leaks. note some leaks only show up when things are at operating temp.
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2 months 5 hours ago #239755 by 68dually
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Well, it ooks like I'm in for a total engine rebuild. The machine was a military machine and only has 3600 original hours. It looks it too. No wear on anything. It's the tightest 518 i've ever seen but something happened to the engine. I took the pan down and found a bunch of thin wrinkled up metal pieces sucked fast to the oil sump screen. I have no idea what they might be. They are steel.
Tranny oil looks good and just has the usual fine metal filings in the bottom of the filter and the main case. Like metal flake paint. It seems like normal wear or maybe break in wear. I did find some small pepper like soft crunchies in the very bottom of the filter housing. I'm guessing shifting clutch material but I think that's normal for a low hour machine. Let me know what you think, Randy
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2 months 4 hours ago #239756 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic 3304DI water in oil
Ahhhh that explains it!!!!!! Stinkin Military decomishioned it!!!!!!!! They put BS in the engine and run it till it stops!!! Then get rid of it.
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1 month 1 week ago #240226 by 68dually
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Well, I got the engine torn down and it's bad. Bearings are all bad. The mains were spinning inside the block and actually grooved the main caps. I hope the block can be saved. They do make oversized bearings for that right? Even the pistons are sctratched up. The weird part is that the engine was running. I will have to get the injector pump inspected as well I'm assuming. Bummer.
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