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1956 D6 9U Cable Blade Restoration

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6 months 4 weeks ago #226192 by D6cat9U
Thanks so much Neil, I will check everything I can, I have ordered new fuel filters, oil, etc. I have removed the fuel tank and will clean it out. I'm having the pony motor fuel tank cleaned also.
I will make sure she turns over freely before I attempt to start it. I'm thinking maybe I should turn the compression release on and turn it over as I push it slowly. ????
Any advise would be truly appreciated.

Thanks again.
Mike

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6 months 4 weeks ago #226193 by D6cat9U

Take a sample from each oil compartment and the fuel tower drain to check for sludge or water. Reliability depends on cleanliness. If you do find contaminants, consider not running (or moving it if it's in the transmission back) until you get the offending chamber cleaned out.


 

Thanks so much Neil, I will check everything I can, I have ordered new fuel filters, oil, etc. I have removed the fuel tank and will clean it out. I'm having the pony motor fuel tank cleaned also.
I will make sure she turns over freely before I attempt to start it. I'm thinking maybe I should turn the compression release on and turn it over as I push it slowly. ????
Any advise would be truly appreciated.

Thanks again.
Mike

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6 months 4 weeks ago #226195 by neil
If you're thinking to push or tow start it, you can leave the compression on and put the main transmission in fifth gear. No need to decompress it. Ensure that you have the reverser lever in the correct position for the direction you intend to start it in

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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6 months 4 weeks ago #226197 by Deas Plant.
Hi D6cat9U.
Good story, thanks for sharing Condolences on the loss of your brother and his wife.

I suspect that there won't be many issues that the people here won't be able to help you in solving.

Seems you have a bit of a talent for telling stories. This one sounds like it could make a good one for the 'Then And Now' section of the magazine if you were inclined to submit it after the restoration is done.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
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6 months 4 weeks ago #226199 by Mike Meyer
Mike, that tractor has been sitting for a long time, the crankshaft bearings will be dry, if possible I'd drag it in 5th with decompression on until you see your oil pressure gauge show good oil pressure, though it sounds like your pony motor is almost ready to bolt back on, and with your other check list items to be done, like fuel tank scrubbing, perhaps wait to fire off the diesel after you fit the pony motor?

I've brought back to life quite a few long dead old Cats, diesel and gas, and getting proven good oil pressure to the motors is one of the first things to do before even thinking about adding fuel and compression, I'll usually plumb in a good known working oil pressure gauge into the oil system just be 110% certain I do have good pressure.

My old RD6 diesel only had to be dragged about 20 yards in top gear with decompression on to get good oil pressure after sitting for over 20 years, and then dragged another 20 yards with decompression off to fire up, but first I'd spent 5 days draining compartments, refilling, cleaning, checking and going over everything first.

The most important thing about starting a long dead engine, is knowing how you are going to stop it, if it runs away on you with a stuck fuel system, so remove the aircleaner and have a suitable piece of wood close to hand that you can quickly put over the intake if needed blocking the air flow into the motor.
Good luck
Mike
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6 months 4 weeks ago #226200 by neil
Mike M makes a good point - if it's been sitting a long time, it's wise to ensure you have oil pressure first before starting. My suggestion is just for everyday starting. I know a farmer that doesn't bother with any kind of starting arrangement because he lives on a hill, so he always bump starts his tractors

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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6 months 4 weeks ago #226203 by dpendzic
I agree with Mike M (donkeyhead) to spin over to get oil pressure before starting--i have done that to a few of my machines that have sat a while

D2, D3, D4, D6, 941B, Cat 15
Hancock Ma and Moriches NY
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6 months 3 weeks ago #226218 by D6cat9U

Hi D6cat9U.
Good story, thanks for sharing Condolences on the loss of your brother and his wife.

I suspect that there won't be many issues that the people here won't be able to help you in solving.

Seems you have a bit of a talent for telling stories. This one sounds like it could make a good one for the 'Then And Now' section of the magazine if you were inclined to submit it after the restoration is done.

Just my 0.02.

I would be very humbled if they accepted my Restoration in that, As I get older I appreciate what this cat did for my family and all the joy my brother and I had together. 
 

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6 months 3 weeks ago #226219 by D6cat9U

Mike, that tractor has been sitting for a long time, the crankshaft bearings will be dry, if possible I'd drag it in 5th with decompression on until you see your oil pressure gauge show good oil pressure, though it sounds like your pony motor is almost ready to bolt back on, and with your other check list items to be done, like fuel tank scrubbing, perhaps wait to fire off the diesel after you fit the pony motor?

I've brought back to life quite a few long dead old Cats, diesel and gas, and getting proven good oil pressure to the motors is one of the first things to do before even thinking about adding fuel and compression, I'll usually plumb in a good known working oil pressure gauge into the oil system just be 110% certain I do have good pressure.

My old RD6 diesel only had to be dragged about 20 yards in top gear with decompression on to get good oil pressure after sitting for over 20 years, and then dragged another 20 yards with decompression off to fire up, but first I'd spent 5 days draining compartments, refilling, cleaning, checking and going over everything first.

The most important thing about starting a long dead engine, is knowing how you are going to stop it, if it runs away on you with a stuck fuel system, so remove the aircleaner and have a suitable piece of wood close to hand that you can quickly put over the intake if needed blocking the air flow into the motor.
Good luck
Mike

I cant thank you enough for the advise, I will do exactly as you all suggest. Im at the point now where Im so excited im losing sleep. Its funny how life gets away, raising a family, working. I spent lots of time walking by the D6 for years and saying, I need to get that going. Something always kept me from doing it.
 

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6 months 3 weeks ago - 6 months 3 weeks ago #226289 by D6cat9U
Well I guess my brother and I never did what my dad said to do 40 years ago and that was clean the air filter, I'm moving forward with this project and I have cleaned the filter bowls, Can anyone tell me the best way to clean the Screen assembly in the main filter and also the pony air filter, Should I just soak in gas or take them to have them dipped in a hot tank. I want to get these cleaned and assembled and plugged to prevent sand from entering so when I have them sand blasted . Dropped off a few parts to my buddy's to get blasted today.

Thanks for all the help.
Mike

  
 
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