"edb" wrote:

Hi OM,
yes indeed, I have no explanation or experience of such reported large volume of oil loss from the engine--leaking lip seals in pumps, or piston ring seals for the crank usually take some time to transfer large volumes oil--I guess unless they are missing ???

Can only think machine was not level when the oil was refilled and checked--not sure now if the engine oil was filled by volume or dip stick checks--I feel there could be some cloud over George's explanations for some issues reported.
Now he has the machine home I think these issues need to be re-checked so as to rule out any possible observation errors.
Its easy to do a re-test and then formulate a plan of attack for any issues found to be still evident.
Would be hesitant to go ripping things apart yet without positive proof--my thoughts.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

-100% Eddie...we don't have much to go on for facts...to jump to any conclusions...baby steps

"edb" wrote:

Hi OM,
yes indeed, I have no explanation or experience of such reported large volume of oil loss from the engine--leaking lip seals in pumps, or piston ring seals for the crank usually take some time to transfer large volumes oil--I guess unless they are missing ???

Can only think machine was not level when the oil was refilled and checked--not sure now if the engine oil was filled by volume or dip stick checks--I feel there could be some cloud over George's explanations for some issues reported.
Now he has the machine home I think these issues need to be re-checked so as to rule out any possible observation errors.
Its easy to do a re-test and then formulate a plan of attack for any issues found to be still evident.
Would be hesitant to go ripping things apart yet without positive proof--my thoughts.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

Thanks Eddie and OM. You are both very correct.... I am in zero hurry to start tearing into things again... It seems the oil level has leveled out and zero need to add additional... Not 100% as I thought I added a 5 gallon pal but found one in my cab.... Full of course... So the jury is out still and I do believe I added more then it calls for .... 11.5 gallons...

The Transmission oil needed to be changed out... The color was grey as discussed... I am looking for a good TDTO equivalent vs the cat brand... I have read some previous posts surrounding this.... It is pretty clear on making sure it is the right viscosity etc....

I have an exhaust manifold the rear closest to cylinder 6,5,and 4 that needs replacing.... It is fully cracked around #6 and this goes all the way around... I have the part and will try my best to take out the 8 bolt studs... I will order new gasket and studs....

Under off-road trans. fluid....

Maybe this one is more readable...

"Old wrote:

Maybe this one is more readable...

Thanks OM not sure how to use this in relation to what is available here on the island...


There are a couple of 5 gallons that are stating Caterpillar TO-2. equivalent. Not sure if that is enough... But I have two known choices here that meets the specs... Cat. TO-2

Thank you for your guidance let me know your thoughts...

TO-2 is considered an obsolete spec. Current is TO-4.
The only way I'd recommend the TO-2 is that we are unsure of the operation of the unit with possible engine oil contamination and you may wind up dumping that oil for repair and replacement.

"Old wrote:

TO-2 is considered an obsolete spec. Current is TO-4.
The only way I'd recommend the TO-2 is that we are unsure of the operation of the unit with possible engine oil contamination and you may wind up dumping that oil for repair and replacement.

Okay thanks OM I dont believe that the transmission has any oil contamination as it is grey in color... The only way that would be possible is if it is a one way leak... I would think the engine oil would be grey as well and it isn't....Back to the grind to find the correct transmission oil....

At one time you stated the transmission oil was black just like your engine oil???? Just going by the info you give us.

-my local guy recommends 5w-30 engine oil...for everything but final drives(80w-90)

-until you get your leaks...fluid transfers between systems sorted...

-you can upgrade when you get your fluid levels steady

Current engines oils are to slick for clutch applications, that's why to TO-4 spec.