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12 years 3 months ago #67731 by drujinin
Replied by drujinin on topic I believe??
My CAT Ten manual states to fill steering clutch compartments with kerosene, (now we use diesel), put in highest forward gear, hold steering clutches disengaged, run for 5mins(?) with engine clutch engaged, then run in reverse the same way. Drain immediately, allowing to dry afterwards.
This is the way they described washing steering clutch compartments, but should work for transmission compartment also.
Disclaimer: I don't remember if the description involved moving the machine (engaging steering clutches), so I don't believe you would be washing the Finals.
Jeff

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12 years 3 months ago #67744 by MARCOTEN
Replied by MARCOTEN on topic just did that
my fifteen had less power on one side and feeled like the steering clutch was slipping,( becouse when i drove without toughing the levers to steer, the machine was going a little more to one side and making a curve)
so i poured in 1 gallon diesel in one side of the housing with the slipping clutch, but i did't follow the manual, i drove forward and back and pulling on both steering clutch levers to stop and go every few meters, to clean clutch surface more,
after doing that i drained the case and filled it but then with with half a gallon of diesel and half a gallon of gasoline for better cleaning, and did the same: going back and forward and stopping every few meters on the steering clutches,
then i drained, the dirty flued, and parked the machine, with the cluth lever disengaged for 1 or 2 dayes for drying the plates of the clutch, later drove with machine and it was now driving perfect going strait.
beacause of the bad (old style type centrifugal metal) seals between steering clutch compartiment and final drive on one side and transmission on the other side oil could come in the the dry case and cause the slippage of the clutch.
i have never washed a transmission cases because it suppose to be oily in there and as long as it lookes kind of clean inside and oil coming out is not too dirty for me its ok.
some people even put diesel in an engine and let i run for short periode like 10 seconds and drain and refill with engine oil to clean engine, but i would NEVER do that, better some old oil remaining in the engine then diesel in there to dillute the new oil.
what are other peoples thoughts about that??

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12 years 3 months ago #67750 by lil cat mec
hmmm were are the steering clutch plates so i can go ahead and clean those? i might as well so everything is done!!!

1935 CAT 22 2f4455W
CAT 951

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12 years 3 months ago #67754 by zootownjeepguy
Replied by zootownjeepguy on topic My 2 cents worth...
IMHO, Kerosene would be better than Diesel for flushing & cleaning. Kerosene is a thinner liquid than Diesel, will get into places that Diesel won't and kerosene will evaporate faster too. Try taking a greasy part and dip an old toothbrush in Kerosene and scrub the part a few times. Then try doing the same with the toothbrush dipped in Diesel and see which one works better. I had better results with the kerosene. DON'T put the toothbrush back in the bathroom (unless it was your Wife's toothbrush:evil:)!

Not trying to start an argument, Both Kerosene And Diesel will work fine. I guess in the end it all boils down to "use what ya got".:thumb:

Rich Salvaggio
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12 years 3 months ago #67757 by MARCOTEN
if you look on the 22 lube chart (page 33 here on this disscussion) there are 2 oiling points nr. 6, and between them there is a plate you can take of with some bolts, then you you can see the both parts left and right. you can put a funnel in one part and fill with the flued you want to use for cleaning, now you got the plate off you can adjust the steering clutch levers aswell, on top of the hendel you need (i tought) 3" free of the hendel.
goodluck!

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12 years 3 months ago #67758 by MARCOTEN
Replied by MARCOTEN on topic pictures
i found 2 pictures which you might help
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12 years 3 months ago #67798 by lil cat mec
is that also the plate to engage the pto?

1935 CAT 22 2f4455W
CAT 951

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12 years 3 months ago #67810 by lil cat mec
with filling the tranny do i fill it up to the top? thats were the fill plug is, i've never heard of a tranny being filled to the verry top...

1935 CAT 22 2f4455W
CAT 951

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12 years 3 months ago #67814 by drujinin
Replied by drujinin on topic Look at Lube Chart
That edb sent you on page 33 of this thread, it clearly shows in front of right hand sprocket under the track rail(chain) an oil level plug for the transmission.
Jeff

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12 years 3 months ago #67815 by MARCOTEN
for washing transmission also fill till it comes out of oil level plug jeff stated acording my instuktion book

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